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The Eddie Stanky All-Stars (50 Points More OBP Than SLG)
Aside from his phenomenal name, Eddie Stanky
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had a special knack for getting on base. His .410 career OBP is 34th-best all time. What he lacked was power; his career .348 SLG was 62 points below his OBP, one of the largest such gaps in history. So in his honor, I present: The Eddie Stanky-All Stars.
To make the Eddie Stanky All Stars–or the Stankees, as I call them–a player had to have at least 1000 career plate appearances and an OBP at least 50 points higher than his SLG. I used stats since the founding of the AL in 1901. A total of 19 players qualified for the team. Here they are, by descending “Stank,” which for the purposes of this post I will define as “OBP minus SLG.”
| Rk | Player | Stank | OBP | SLG | PA | From | To | BA | Pos |
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| 1 | Mickey Lolich The best solution payday loans |
.094 | .215 | .121 | 1017 | 1963 | 1979 | .110 | P |
| 2 | Urban Shocker The best solution payday loans |
.085 | .334 | .249 | 1046 | 1916 | 1928 | .209 | P |
| 3 | Red Faber The best solution payday loans |
.079 | .240 | .161 | 1550 | 1914 | 1933 | .134 | P |
| 4 | Roy Thomas The best solution payday loans |
.074 | .403 | .329 | 5198 | 1901 | 1911 | .282 | CF |
| 5 | Miller Huggins The best solution payday loans |
.068 | .382 | .314 | 6800 | 1904 | 1916 | .265 | 2B |
| 6 | Floyd Baker The best solution payday loans |
.063 | .360 | .297 | 2694 | 1943 | 1955 | .251 | 3B |
| 7 | Eddie Stanky The best solution payday loans |
.062 | .410 | .348 | 5435 | 1943 | 1953 | .268 | 2B |
| 8 | Morrie Rath The best solution payday loans |
.057 | .342 | .285 | 2405 | 1909 | 1920 | .254 | 2B |
| Ed Hahn The best solution payday loans |
.057 | .335 | .278 | 2405 | 1905 | 1910 | .237 | RF | |
| Max Bishop The best solution payday loans |
.057 | .423 | .366 | 5779 | 1924 | 1935 | .271 | 2B | |
| 11 | Donie Bush The best solution payday loans |
.056 | .356 | .300 | 8734 | 1908 | 1923 | .250 | SS |
| Whitey Ford The best solution payday loans |
.056 | .256 | .200 | 1208 | 1950 | 1967 | .173 | P | |
| 13 | Johnny Bassler The best solution payday loans |
.055 | .416 | .361 | 2858 | 1913 | 1927 | .304 | C |
| 14 | Reggie Willits The best solution payday loans |
.054 | .356 | .302 | 1014 | 2006 | 2011 | .258 | LF |
| 15 | Mike Tresh The best solution payday loans |
.052 | .335 | .283 | 3637 | 1938 | 1949 | .249 | C |
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.052 | .347 | .295 | 4928 | 1905 | 1915 | .255 | SS | |
| 17 | John Cangelosi The best solution payday loans |
.051 | .370 | .319 | 2432 | 1985 | 1999 | .250 | CF |
| Lance Blankenship The best solution payday loans |
.051 | .350 | .299 | 1292 | 1988 | 1993 | .222 | 2B | |
| 19 | Merv Shea The best solution payday loans |
.050 | .327 | .277 | 1400 | 1927 | 1944 | .220 | C |
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* leads off the list. Check out that comically low SLG: .121! He had just 5 doubles, 2 triples, and 0 homers in his career, good for a microscopic .011 ISO. Lolich, in fact, has the lowest SLG and ISO of any player with at least 1000 PAs in MLB history. Jerry Koosman The best solution payday loans
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(.013) aren’t far behind in ISO. Granted, most pitchers don’t get to 1000 career PAs, especially these days, but even if you lower the bar to a minimum of 500 PAs, Lolich still has the 17th-worst SLG of all time.**
* If this were Twitter, I’d call him Mickey LOLich because of his terrible hitting… But it’s not Twitter, so I won’t.
** Dean Chance The best solution payday loans is easily the worst using that cutoff, with a ridiculous .069 SLG. Chance had just 2 extra-base hits (both doubles) in his career, spanning 759 PAs. The 199 worst marks are all pitchers, unsurprisingly, though a catcher, Bill Bergen The best solution payday loans, ranks 200th-worst with a .201 career SLG. Mind-bogglingly, Bergen got over 3000 PAs in his career.
After Lolich come two more pitchers. I’m guessing that it’s easier for a pitcher to have a high Stanky score, both because they’re more likely to suck at slugging and because their sample sizes are a lot smaller than most of the position players on the list. Still, those kinds of gaps in over 1000 PAs is certainly not a fluke. These pitchers, like the rest of the players on the list, all had good batting eyes but no power at all.
The top position player on the list, Roy Thomas
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, was a turn-of-the-20th-century outfielder. His career actually started in 1899, and if you include that year and 1900, his OBP goes up to .413. He led the NL in walks 7 times and had three seasons with a .450 OBP or better. Like several of the other players on this list, he played in the Deadball Era, when low SLG was more commonplace than it has been in most of the years since.
The only active player on the list, Reggie Willits
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, is on the list largely on the strength of his 2007 season, when he posted a .393 OBP in 518 PAs, which is more than half his career total. He hasn’t had more than 182 PAs in any other season, and his total OBP in other seasons is just .320. Since he’ll be 31 next season and got just 28 PAs in 2011, it’s not looking like Willits will get many more chances at the MLB level. Which sucks for him, but does make it more likely that he’ll stay on this list.
Every position but 1st base is represented in the list. I guess that means that 1st base is the one position where you can’t accept a low-SLG player even if he gets on base at a good clip. The Stankiest 1st baseman of all time is Babe Borton
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, whose OBP (.381) was “only” 29 points higher than his SLG (.352). Just 10 1st basemen have had an OBP higher than their SLG at all, and none in the past 25 years (Mike Hargrove The best solution payday loans
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If you played a little loose at 1st base, you could make a really good starting lineup and 4-man rotation out of this list. In fact, I will:
- Roy Thomas, CF, .403 OBP
- Eddie Stanky, 2B, .410 OBP
- Johnny Bassler The best solution payday loans, C, .416 OBP
- Max Bishop The best solution payday loans, 1B , .423 OBP (I needed a 1B, and he did play there a little late in his career)
- John Cangelosi The best solution payday loans, RF, .370 OBP (moved over from CF)
- Reggie Willits, LF, .356 OBP
- Donie Bush The best solution payday loans, SS, .356 OBP
- Floyd Baker The best solution payday loans, 3B, .360 OBP
- Urban Schocker, P, .334 OBP (not bad for a pitcher!)
Overall, that lineup averages a .381 OBP and a .319 SLG. That OBP would be better than all but 15 qualified players from the 2011 season, but the SLG would be worse than every player but one: Jason Bartlett
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The rotation is fantastic, though that’s just a fun coincidence, since I doubt there’s much correlation between walk-drawing ability at the plate and any pitching skill. The top two pitchers, Red Faber
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, are in the Hall of Fame, though their WAR totals (55 each by Baseball-Reference’s reckoning) peg them as somewhat marginal choices. The back end of the rotation is nearly as good, as both Shocker and Lolich had long, very successful careers of their own. Shocker’s career WAR was 47, while Lolich’s was 46.
And then, of course, the team would be managed by Miller Huggins
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, who is in the Hall of Fame as a manager thanks to his amazing run with the 1920′s Yankees. Huggins won 6 pennants and 3 World Series in an 8-year span before his tragic death from a rare skin infection near the end of the 1929 season. He was also a player-manager with the Cardinals earlier in his career, so he could definitely pull double-duty here, too. Perhaps he’d be the DH if this hypothetical team played in the AL.
Congratulations to all the Eddie Stanky All-Stars on their unusual accomplishment. I hope Reggie Willits realizes what a proud tradition he is a part of.
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It seems counter-intuitive that so many light-hitting pitchers would be on this list. Were they particularly good at fouling pitches off, thus giving them a better chance to draw walks?
Probably not. The bat probably rarely left their shoulders. Their high Stank scores probably have more to do with the fact that even at the major league level, pitchers with major league “stuff” sometimes have trouble throwing strikes, even against “groove it in there right down the middle” hitters.
Maxie Bishop was famously known as “Camera Eye.” He was also called “Tillie” which may or may not have had something to do with his lack of power and his obvious efforts to get on base without hitting the ball.
Players who won’t swing the bat and look to get on base “dishonourably” by drawing walks have always been seen as candy-ass. In the earliest days of professional baseball, it took nine balls to draw a walk, and there was an unwritten rule that players would swing the bat to get on base. Since batters could at that time could call for either a “low” or “high” pitch from the pitcher, that attitude made a certain amount of sense.
I was a little surprised that Eddie “The Walking Man” Yost didn’t make the list — he was one of the great walk-meisters of all time. However, he had just enough power (139 career HRs) to miss the list, even though he finished his career with a .395 OBP and a .371 SLG in more than 9,000 career major league plate appearances.
I’m not sure why the pitchers made the list… Perhaps their eyesight far outweighed their hitting ability… Or perhaps they had such a good rapport with the umpires that it influenced calls (presumably when pitching as well as when batting)?
Good point about the origins of baseball… It’s interesting to see just how strong that bias against high-walk hitters was, to the degree that it still persists in many ways today. At least with some “baseball people.”
I was a bit surprised Yost missed the cutoff, too. He’s one of my favorite old-timers. But as you say, he had too much power to quite get on the list.
Roy Thomas was one of the great unsung players of baseball history. An excellent defensive center fielder, he was consistently among the senior circuit’s league leaders in runs scored during the 20th Century’s first decade despite his complete lack of power due to his phenomenal ability to get on base.
Roy Thomas was also the proto-type for a certain kind of ballplayer that has recurred in baseball history. Richie Ashburn (.396 OBP and .382 SLG in 9,736 career plate appearances) and Brett Butler (.377 OBP and .376 SLG in 9,545 career plate appearances)were also great defensive center fielders who made terrific lead-off hitters and scored loads of runs because of their exceptional ability to get on base in spite of the fact that they had no power to speak of.
Ashburn was the best of the bunch and was elected to baseball’s Hall of Fame by the Veterans’ Committee in 1995.
Great article! This is exactly the sort of thing that fascinates me about baseball statistics.
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